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  praise_yeshua > 10-31-2018, 08:15 PM

  There seems to be more "radicals" recently in fundamental circles. When I say radicals, I'm talking about those that are willing to accept different translation than just the KJV. Or those willing to believe the "church" is more than just a building. Or maybe those that believe that fundamentalism is full of those who legalistically bring others into bondage....
  
  Sure. They might be a little "radical" but it looks to me that they're just more of the same. 
  
  They are still all about CONTROL!
  
  I tell how I can tell.....
  
  1. They still talk about how God is moving by pointing out how the church building is bigger and newer and "better looking" than it was before. 
  
  In other words, they don't really believe the church isn't the church building. If they did, they wouldn't judge success through the very same things they once judged success. I tell you. More and more, I'm becoming convinced that they're really just trying to be different, so they can lead more people, have more influence.... and control MORE across the board.
  
  2. They still require those "in Christ" to answer to THEM!
  
  Yes. Same ole. Same ole. Free people realize they answer only to God. That means they are free to believe what God says WITHOUT the filter or demands of some local leader. 
  
  These same radicals, do not want men chargeable to God. They want them chargeable to themselves. God's children don't need OTHERS to believe for them, nor OTHERS to disseminate the Truth for them. We already have the words of the apostles in our hands. We answer to those words and God alone. 
  
  3. They still require their members support them financially. 
  
  
  Yes. They still believe that tithing is God's way to support them in their job. It doesn't matter if they "rob other churches" to take wages of them to do others service. You'd better keep giving the money to the local church or you're not "right with God". If they still demand your money, then its all about CONTROL... and ultimately THEM......
  
  
  The more things change. The more they stay the same.

• RE: Radicals... just the same ole same ole

  DeepSix > 11-02-2018, 11:08 AM

  What you are describing, and what countless others have been ostracized from, after pointing out for over a century now, is a cult.
  
  It's a long story that I will spare you the details of. But my grandfather, who had been a member of J Frank Norris's church in the 1930s, tried to warn me off the cultish phenomenon known as Independent Baptist Fundamentalism when I was a teenager.
  
  I didn't listen.
  
  I was raised Southern Baptist, and saved at age 7. But from the moment I was first exposed to an IFB church I was so overwhelmed, and then so completely distracted by all the windstorms, earthquakes and fires going on around that "movement" that I had no ear for what either my grandfather, or the still small voice inside, was trying to tell me.  
  
  I not only joined a church in the Fundamentalist movement, but married the daughter of one of it's many fanatical sycophants.
  
  That is when I learned just how deep their desire to control everyone around them is seated.  And how far they are willing to go to see their desires carried out.
  
  I did not stay in the IFB fold for very long, and the rest is now history. Many chapters of which involve me driving fervent followers of Fundamentalism to apoplexy by telling them the same things my grandfather told me.
  
  But I believe your post hit the nail on the head. It's just the same ole same ole,
  
  And it has been going on for a very long time.
  
  Ecc 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
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