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apparently it;s not over yet........
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apparently it;s not over yet........
aleshanee > 11-14-2016, 11:32 PM
at this very moment supporters of hillary clinton are petitioning members of
the electoral college, pledged to donald trump, and are trying to get them to change
their vote to hillary clinton when they meet in december........ apparently this
kind of electoral fraud.... known as corruption in the electoral college....... and-
which is actually legal in 21 states plus barely punished with a slap on the wrist
in the other 29..... has been committed several times in our nations history ......
.....and according to people formerly serving as electorates some campaigns in
the past have offered large bribes to electoral college members to change their vote ....
the most recent known examples of this happened in 2000 when electoral college
members pledged to george w bush were heavily pressured by members of the al gore
campaign to change their vote and elect al gore..... this year people who support hillary
clinton are openly admitting that they are applying the same kind of pressure on this
years electoral college members trying convince them to commit fraud and change their votes.......
...... does it come as a surprise to anyone that supporters of the most corrupt presidential
candidate in recent memory would be working to award their candidate the presidency -( post
an over whelming general election loss ) - by engineering another act of corruption?..... and on a mass scale?.
...... .i wonder what hillary clinton herself is saying about this... or what clandestine part she is playing
in it all.... ...and if anyone in the news media is even bothering to ask her about it......
anyway....... it might not actually be over yet....... like the man giving the following interview says....
...."you can;t put anything past these people...."...... i guess we will have to wait now and see what
happens at the electoral college on december 19th.......
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RE: apparently it;s not over yet........
lnf > 11-15-2016, 01:14 AM
(11-14-2016, 11:32 PM)aleshanee Wrote: at this very moment supporters of hillary clinton are petitioning members of
Frankly, I don't think this will happen, but if it does, all bets are off. Neither candidate got a mandate. While Trump won the electoral vote, HIllary won the popular. If the electoral college doesn't follow the states in their voting and ends up electing Hillary, I can see anarchy break out in our country.
the electoral college, pledged to donald trump, and are trying to get them to change
their vote to hillary clinton when they meet in december........ apparently this
kind of electoral fraud.... known as corruption in the electoral college....... and-
which is actually legal in 21 states plus barely punished with a slap on the wrist
in the other 29..... has been committed several times in our nations history ......
.....and according to people formerly serving as electorates some campaigns in
the past have offered large bribes to electoral college members to change their vote ....
the most recent known examples of this happened in 2004 when electoral college
members pledged to george w bush were heavily pressured by members of the al gore
campaign to change their vote and elect al gore..... this year people who support hillary
clinton are openly admitting that they are applying the same kind of pressure on this
years electoral college members trying convince them to commit fraud and change their votes.......
...... does it come as a surprise to anyone that supporters of the most corrupt presidential
candidates in recent memory would be working to award their candidate the presidency -( post
an over whelming general election loss ) - by engineering another act of corruption?..... and on a mass scale?.
...... .i wonder what hillary clinton herself is saying about this... or what clandestine part she is playing
in it all.... ...and if anyone in the news media is even bothering to ask her about it......
anyway....... it might not actually be over yet....... like the man giving the following interview says....
...."you can;t put anything past these people...."...... i guess we will have to wait now and see what
happens at the electoral college on december 19th.......
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RE: apparently it;s not over yet........
aleshanee > 11-15-2016, 03:41 AM
according to this news article a pair of democratic presidential electors are already pressuring their republican collegues to change their votes...... and they claim they have one republican elector who has said he or she will refuse to vote for trump..... ...... so who knows......... ..... it could get even uglier after december 19th or their could be more clinton supporter riots if the electoral college does it;s job and remains faithful to the voters who sent them there.......
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/t...li=BBnb7Kz -
RE: apparently it;s not over yet........
praise_yeshua > 11-16-2016, 03:12 PM
"Neither candidate got a mandate"?
I disagree.
There are estimates that at least 3 million illegal immigrants voted in this election. In fact, there are active law suits underway to expose this very fact. Obama himself openly advocated for illegals to vote.
The vast majority of these voters are in California and sanctuary cities that grant citizen privileges to illegal immigrants. They do NOT require that registers to vote prove citizenship. Take away these votes and Trump easily wins the popular vote.
There is no way we can abandon the electoral college. It was put in place for this very situation. The Founding Fathers worried that a large portion of the population will amass in large cities throughout the country and thus be able to dictate national policy through their local monopoly of people.
This isn't fair. I wouldn't be calling for the electoral college to be abandoned if Hillary won the electoral college and Trump won the popular vote. -
RE: apparently it;s not over yet........
The Rogue Tomato > 11-16-2016, 05:41 PM
It's not going to happen.
By the way, Trump got the popular vote, too, by about 700,000 and that's before the absentee ballots (which are mostly Republican) were counted.
In fact, there were 3 million illegals who voted, and I can pretty much guarantee they all voted for Hillary. So Trump won the popular vote by at least 3,700,000.
I'd say that's a fair mandate. -
RE: apparently it;s not over yet........
lnf > 11-18-2016, 01:52 AM
Well, I don't know about all that. Yes, I think there was a lot of voter fraud. But, in my opinion, "a mandate" is more like a 75/25 spread. What is remarkable is that Trump won at all, considering all who were working against him. I suppose, in that light, one could call it a mandate.
As far as the electoral college, I ran across a graphic that broke down votes by county. Across the nation, it was a sea of red with small islands of blue. The blue counties all had large metropolitan centers. If we abandoned the electoral college, candidates would only worry about the votes of city dwellers. Nope...our founding fathers got it just right. The electoral college evens out the vote so that rural and suburban voters also have a voice. The crybabies who are calling for the disbanding of the electoral college would be crying a different tune if their candidate won the electoral vote/lost the popular vote. -
RE: apparently it;s not over yet........
aleshanee > 11-22-2016, 10:31 PM
on the issue of illegal undocumented immigrants voting - -
there are many who saw this interview with obama and believe he was encouraging
undocumented immigrants to do exactly that...... ..... and since this surge of provisional
ballets currently coming in from sanctuary cities in california that have hillary clinton
leading in the popular vote.... i would say that not only is it evidence that the electoral
college system is still valid and should be preserved.... but an investigation should be made
into californias corrupt manner of holding elections..... ...it might be even worse than chicago....
...which obama himself admitted was corrupt and fraudulent 8 years ago.....
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RE: apparently it;s not over yet........
aleshanee > 11-28-2016, 10:14 PM
but wait!.... as the say in the television infomercials.... that;s not all!.... along with the issue of possible undocumented aliens voting we now have recounts being requested in 3 states that trump won unexpectedly..... but still won with a clear enough margin that no recount should have been necessary..... ..... this request is being requested by 3rd party candidate jill stein .... who has no chance of winning anything ....recount or no..... and who ironically has raised more money to apply to the recount request than she was able to raise for her entire presidential campaign .......hhmmmmmmm ...i wonder how that happened....
...... initially she claimed to have an anonymous donor to her new cause that gave her a few million dollars.... .... and then shortly after that was announced the clinton campaign said while they would not take an active part they would nontheless also support the recount.... .. .....hhmmmmmmmmmm again....... 
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wasn;t the clinton campaign... led by hillary clinton herself.... the very ones who criticized and condemned donald trump for being unwilling to say he would concede the results of an election what had not even happened yet?....... ...i believe she actually called a refusal to accept election results a direct threat to democracy and the american way of life........
....... oh well....... i guess once again hillary clinton shows she believes the rules don;t apply to her...... shamlessly looking out for her own best interests first...... and to the devil with america and democracy.......
but wait again!....... that;s still not all!........ in another development ... president obama.... who supported the hillary clinton campaign and even campaigned on her behalf as if the future of all things american depended on her winning.... says he does not support the recount...
.. he says the election was held fair and square.... without evidence of tampering by outside parties.... and that the american people have spoken........... ..... that;s probably the most shocking development of this whole situation....... but i am very glad he said it...... .
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and.... it;s still not over....
aleshanee > 12-18-2016, 05:49 AM
and it;s still not over...............
... at least not to the sore loser democrats who still can;t accept the fact their dream candidate lost.......
they have cried.... wallowed in disbelief.... thrown tantrums.... marched... rioted.... hugged therapy puppies.... broken their
crayons on therapy coloring books..... made minature trump trolls out of play-do then smashed them on the table under
their fists..... blamed everything from racial whitelash and the kkk to being undermined by the fbi and secret cyberspace
agents of a foreign government...... all the while screaming things like... "trump is not my president!!"... and "hillary should have won!!" ......
and they didn;t stop there........
after they got over their intitial post election stress trauma... they moved on the electoral college trying to convince as many republican
electors as they could find to become faithless.... corrupt the electoral college and change their vote. ...... then called for recounts of
votes in swing states.... and demanded official investigations into russian hacking of top democratic party emails..... (which in truth did
nothing but reveal the truth about just how crooked the democrats really were....)... and insisting that the email hacks constitutes
intereference into the election which should empower the court to overturn the results and award the presidency to clinton..... ............
.........and it;s that last dying ember of hope they are still trying to fan into a flame ..... even president obama has abandoned his earlier
pledge to a smooth transfer of power and jumped on the bandwagon demanding an answer to the hacking question before he leaves
office and trump is inaugerated.......
they just can;t give it up............
so i am waiting now to see what they will do on january 20th if the electoral college
does it;s job .... as directed by the voters in their respective states .....and names
donald trump the next president of our country.......
either way..... i doubt we have heard the end of this...... but it would be nice to think so.....
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RE: apparently it;s not over yet........
lnf > 12-20-2016, 09:31 PM
It's interesting to note the progression of the Russian hacking claims. It seems each news cycle upped the ante, to where Putin is now directly implicated.
I also found it quite telling that the democrats/Clinton campaign never actually said that the leaked emails were fabricated or false, just that they couldn't be trusted because it was hacked information.
So Hillary lost because of untrustworthy hacked emails, Mr. Comey's letter, potential voter fraud in swing states, the fact that democrats didn't show up at the polls, the unfair way the media covered the election, false news stories, ad infinitum, ad nauseam. Did I forget any of the excuses?